{"id":28376,"date":"2022-06-16T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2022-06-15T22:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/museuterra.srvcactus.com\/article\/entrevista-david-segarra-lhorta-valenciana-exemplifica-que-es-possible-la-convivencia-entre-lhuma-i-la-terra\/"},"modified":"2025-07-15T17:55:57","modified_gmt":"2025-07-15T15:55:57","slug":"entrevista-david-segarra-horta-valenciana","status":"publish","type":"article","link":"https:\/\/museuterra.srvcactus.com\/es\/article\/entrevista-david-segarra-horta-valenciana\/","title":{"rendered":"David Segarra: \u00abL\u2019horta valenciana exemplifica que \u00e9s possible la conviv\u00e8ncia entre l\u2019hum\u00e0 i la terra\u00bb"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"et_d4_element et_pb_section et_pb_section_0  et_pb_css_mix_blend_mode et_section_regular et_block_section\" >\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"et_d4_element et_pb_row et_pb_row_0  et_pb_css_mix_blend_mode et_block_row\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"et_d4_element et_pb_column_4_4 et_pb_column et_pb_column_0  et_pb_css_mix_blend_mode et-last-child et_block_column\">\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"et_pb_module et_d4_element et_pb_text et_pb_text_0  et_pb_text_align_left et_pb_bg_layout_light\">\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"et_pb_text_inner\"><p><span>En els darrers cinquanta anys,\u00a0<\/span><strong>la superf\u00edcie de cultiu de l\u2019Horta de Val\u00e8ncia s\u2019ha redu\u00eft m\u00e9s d\u2019un 50\u2009% a causa de l\u2019expansi\u00f3 de la ciutat sobre el camp.<\/strong><span>\u00a0Una hist\u00f2ria de viol\u00e8ncia, segons explica el documentalista David Segarra (Val\u00e8ncia, 1976). Els darrers anys ha fet tres documentals que retraten diverses q\u00fcestions d\u2019aquesta horta que \u00e9s mil\u00b7len\u00e0ria:\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=wGt21e7prz8\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>Savis de l'Horta <\/em><\/a>(2019), <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=rzkBW3cvqB0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>Renaixem<\/em><\/a><span>\u00a0(2020) i\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=UPokMSHJ42k\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>Per molt que bufe el vent<\/em><\/a><span>\u00a0(2020). Aprofitant la visita de Segarra al Museu de la Vida Rural per participar en el\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/museuterra.srvcactus.com\/article\/visions2022-i-ara-que-respostes-al-consum-i-alimentacio\/\">tercer debat del cicle \u00abVisions 5.1\u00bb<\/a><span>\u00a0de 2022, conversem amb ell.<\/span><\/p><\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div><div class=\"et_pb_module et_d4_element et_pb_image et_pb_image_0\">\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<span class=\"et_pb_image_wrap \"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1707\" src=\"https:\/\/museuterra.srvcactus.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/34B0554-scaled-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"34B0554-scaled\" class=\"wp-image-26218\" \/><\/span>\n\t\t\t<\/div><div class=\"et_pb_module et_d4_element et_pb_text et_pb_text_1  et_pb_text_align_left et_pb_bg_layout_light\">\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"et_pb_text_inner\"><p><strong>\u2013\u00a0Els \u00faltims vint anys has estat cobrint conflictes a Am\u00e8rica Llatina \u2014Col\u00f2mbia, Vene\u00e7uela\u2014, a Egipte, Palestina, Turquia\u2026 i tornes fa quatre anys a Val\u00e8ncia. Com ha estat el retorn?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Sempre faig una comparaci\u00f3 amb\u00a0<em>Odissea,\u00a0<\/em>on Ulisses i els seus companys fan un viatge per tota la Mediterr\u00e0nia per arribar a \u00cdtaca. \u00cdtaca no \u00e9s una utopia, \u00e9s sa casa i vol tornar-hi amb un una motxilla carregada d\u2019aprenentatges. Jo vaig comen\u00e7ar a fer periodisme fent reportatges sobre l\u2019horta valenciana fa vint anys, quan s\u2019estava destruint l\u2019horta de Benimaclet, d\u2019Alboraia i de La Punta. El m\u00f3n modern ha declarat la guerra a la terra. I aix\u00f2 ho veig quan cobreixo aquests conflictes: no nom\u00e9s passa a Val\u00e8ncia, sin\u00f3 tamb\u00e9 a tot el planeta. A Gaza tamb\u00e9 els hi destrueixen l\u2019horta o el cas dels ind\u00edgenes de Col\u00f2mbia i Vene\u00e7uela, que lluiten per defensar la serra de Perij\u00e1.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u2013 I tornes i et trobes que el conflicte continua\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Torno a Val\u00e8ncia i m\u2019adono que Val\u00e8ncia t\u00e9 un tresor, que l\u2019han intentat destruir, per\u00f2 que ha sobreviscut. L\u2019horta valenciana est\u00e0 considerada per la FAO i per la UNESCO com el paradigma d\u2019agricultura sostenible, amb m\u00e9s de mil anys de funcionament continu. Exemplifica que \u00e9s possible la conviv\u00e8ncia entre l\u2019hum\u00e0 i la terra.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u2013\u00a0Qu\u00e8 ha canviat en aquests vint anys?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fa vins anys est\u00e0vem en el pic m\u00e0xim del desenvolupisme m\u00e9s agressiu. Hi havia un consens europeu que calia acabar amb la natura, l\u2019agricultura, la ramaderia o la pesca, expulsar tota aquesta activitat fora d\u2019Europa. Nosaltres nom\u00e9s pod\u00edem ser enginyers electr\u00f2nics, apostar per les telecomunicacions i fer moltes\u00a0<em>startups<\/em>. En aquell moment, les comunitats camperoles de l\u2019horta de La Punta es troben soles. Vint anys despr\u00e9s, el canvi \u00e9s radical. Aquest sistema que semblava etern es troba q\u00fcestionat per una crisi econ\u00f2mica i social que despr\u00e9s s\u2019encadena amb d\u2019altres, com la clim\u00e0tica o la de la COVID-19. Hi ha hagut un canvi social, la societat valenciana est\u00e0 valorant molt m\u00e9s l\u2019horta i l\u2019agricultura, tot i que encara queda molta feina a fer.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u2013 A\u00a0<em>Savis de l\u2019Horta<\/em>\u00a0(2018) retrates la saviesa, el lligam amb la terra dels pagesos, per\u00f2 ho fas amb una visi\u00f3 molt rom\u00e0ntica i sense ensenyar la cruesa del camp.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>L\u2019horta \u00e9s un espai de viol\u00e8ncia extrema. Eixe documental el faig despr\u00e9s de veure morir desenes de llauradors a qui han destrossat les seves vides carregant-se les seves finques. La resposta a tota aquesta viol\u00e8ncia la vaig voler canalitzar a trav\u00e9s de la veu dels pagesos, ja majors, que explicaven la seva visi\u00f3 de la modernitat, de la societat actual i dels valors de la comunitat de l\u2019horta. La veu de l\u2019horta tamb\u00e9 ha estat silenciada medi\u00e0ticament i potser si haguessin tingut m\u00e9s espais on expressar-se la terra estaria m\u00e9s ben valorada. Al final el documental \u00e9s com el museu, un espill de la realitat, un espai on iniciar un di\u00e0leg.<\/p><\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div><div class=\"et_pb_module et_d4_element et_pb_image et_pb_image_1\">\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<span class=\"et_pb_image_wrap \"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1849\" src=\"https:\/\/museuterra.srvcactus.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/34B0559-scaled-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"34B0559-scaled\" class=\"wp-image-26219\" \/><\/span>\n\t\t\t<\/div><div class=\"et_pb_module et_d4_element et_pb_text et_pb_text_2  et_pb_text_align_left et_pb_bg_layout_light\">\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"et_pb_text_inner\"><p><strong>\u2013\u00a0Des del Museu de la Vida Rural conservem i difonem sabers, coneixements i maneres de treballar lligats a la vida del camp, a aquesta saviesa que anomenes tu. Per\u00f2 \u00e9s un patrimoni que estem perdent. Aquests sabers i maneres de fer ens poden ajudar a encarar problem\u00e0tiques actuals?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00c9s un patrimoni que tenim molt a prop i que est\u00e0 viu, per\u00f2 hem volgut ser analfabets de nosaltres mateixos. Ens cal rellegir-nos a nosaltres mateixos. Quan he arribat al Museu de la Vida Rural, hi ha paraules inscrites a la paret com\u00a0<em>mola<\/em>,\u00a0<em>tup\u00ed\u00a0<\/em>o\u00a0<em>c\u00e0vec<\/em>\u00a0que ens expliquen qui som. Alcarr\u00e0s, ara que s\u2019ha fet tant fam\u00f3s, prov\u00e9 d\u2019un nom d\u2019Al-\u00c0ndalus i vol dir \u2018cirerers\u2019. Si no sabem l\u2019origen dels nostres territoris, com hi hem d\u2019arrelar?<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u2013\u00a0El 2020 fas un altre documental,\u00a0<em>Renaixem,<\/em>\u00a0que coincideix justament amb la pand\u00e8mia de la COVID-19. I, a difer\u00e8ncia de\u00a0<em>Savis de l\u2019Horta<\/em>, en aquest darrer apareix una generaci\u00f3 m\u00e9s jove.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>S\u00f3n els fills o els nets dels que parlen a\u00a0<em>Savis de l\u2019Horta\u00a0<\/em>i tamb\u00e9 persones que han immigrat. Arran del confinament per la pand\u00e8mia, reflexionen sobre que ells tamb\u00e9 tenen una feina essencial com a productors d\u2019aliments. S\u00f3n exemple de com afrontar una crisi ambiental, econ\u00f2mica, de recursos, social o sanit\u00e0ria, i la soluci\u00f3 \u00e9s senzilla: tenint terra a prop i explotant-la de manera sostenible.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u2013\u00a0En tots dos documentals es destaca el factor comunitari de l\u2019horta valenciana, que de fet ja ve l\u2019\u00e8poca del Al-\u00c0ndalus, oi? Del minifundi, molt allunyat de grans extensions cultivables.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>El minifundi ha perm\u00e8s a l\u2019horta valenciana sobreviure a crisis econ\u00f2miques, guerres o pand\u00e8mies perqu\u00e8 t\u00e9 una flexibilitat inherent. Hi ha una fragmentaci\u00f3 de camps extraordin\u00e0ria, res de monocultius. \u00c9s molt resilient econ\u00f2micament parlant perqu\u00e8 no te la jugues en un \u00fanic producte. Tamb\u00e9 perqu\u00e8 a Val\u00e8ncia els llauradors tenen l\u2019opci\u00f3 de venda quasi directa amb el consumidor, no hi ha intermediaris a trav\u00e9s de La Tira de Comptar, un espai de Mercaval\u00e8ncia on els llauradors poden vendre els seus productes. Un model instaurat en \u00e8poca andalusina i oficialitzat pel rei Jaume I!<\/p><\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div><div class=\"et_pb_with_border et_pb_module et_d4_element et_pb_testimonial et_pb_testimonial_0  et_pb_css_mix_blend_mode clearfix  et_pb_text_align_left et_pb_bg_layout_light et_block_module et_pb_testimonial_no_image\">\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"et_pb_testimonial_description\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"et_pb_testimonial_description_inner\"><div class=\"et_pb_testimonial_content\"><p><span>La innovaci\u00f3 \u00e9s recuperar el que sempre s\u2019ha fet.<\/span><\/p><\/div><\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"et_pb_testimonial_meta\"><\/p>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div><div class=\"et_pb_module et_d4_element et_pb_text et_pb_text_3  et_pb_text_align_left et_pb_bg_layout_light\">\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"et_pb_text_inner\"><p><strong>\u2013\u00a0Al Museu de la Vida Rural oferim l\u2019activitat \u00abConreant futur\u00bb, on, a trav\u00e9s d\u2019una visita a l\u2019exposici\u00f3 permanent, ens fem preguntes com, per exemple, com vivien els nostres avis i besavis? Com treballaven la terra? D\u2019on venia el menjar i d\u2019on ve ara? O com ens alimentarem en el futur? Hi ha una q\u00fcesti\u00f3 intr\u00ednseca a tot el conflicte de l\u2019horta valenciana que \u00e9s la sobirania aliment\u00e0ria, el model de producci\u00f3 i el de consum dels aliments, oi?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ara s\u2019est\u00e0 modernitzant el camp o\u00a0<em>retradicionalitzant<\/em>, perqu\u00e8 el llenguatge \u00e9s molt engany\u00f3s. La gent jove aposta ara per l\u2019agricultura ecol\u00f2gica, les ciutats organitzen mercats de pag\u00e8s per fer venda directa o les escoles reclamen tenir productes de proximitat en el men\u00fa del menjador. La innovaci\u00f3 \u00e9s recuperar el que sempre s\u2019ha fet, amb les millores t\u00e8cniques o cient\u00edfiques que s\u2019han desenvolupat. Durant les \u00faltimes d\u00e8cades hem apostat per un model que, a m\u00e9s de no ser just socialment, contaminant i poc saludable, tampoc ens ha garantit la sobirania aliment\u00e0ria. A l\u2019estat espanyol, en comparaci\u00f3 amb molts pa\u00efsos d\u2019Europa, tenim el coneixement i la terra per recuperar aquesta sobirania aliment\u00e0ria; ara cal posar-s\u2019hi. A m\u00e9s, la sobirania aliment\u00e0ria ens permetr\u00e0 mitigar l\u2019emerg\u00e8ncia clim\u00e0tica.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u2013\u00a0Sobretot a la ciutat, encara s\u00f3n poques les persones que consumeixen producte de proximitat. A Barcelona mateix, hi ha escletxes com els mercats de pag\u00e8s, les cooperatives de consum o ara fa pocs mesos l\u2019obertura de Foodcoop, el primer supermercat cooperatiu. Com fem que no siguin bombolles i que s\u2019expandeixin?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Cal potenciar i privilegiar el producte de proximitat. Est\u00e0 molt b\u00e9 obrir quatre tendes ecol\u00f2giques, per\u00f2 la transformaci\u00f3 ha de ser global. No pot ser que anem a comprar carxofes a Barcelona i no siguin del Prat de Llobregat!<\/p><\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t<\/div><div class=\"et_d4_element et_pb_row et_pb_row_1 et_pb_equal_columns et_pb_gutters2  et_pb_css_mix_blend_mode et_block_row\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"et_d4_element et_pb_column_2_3 et_pb_column et_pb_column_1  et_pb_css_mix_blend_mode et_block_column\">\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"et_pb_module et_d4_element et_pb_image et_pb_image_2 align-center\">\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<span class=\"et_pb_image_wrap \"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"768\" height=\"432\" src=\"https:\/\/museuterra.srvcactus.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/SAVISDELHORTA3_NoticiaAmpliada.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"SAVISDELHORTA3_NoticiaAmpliada\" class=\"wp-image-26220\" \/><\/span>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div><div class=\"et_d4_element et_pb_column_1_3 et_pb_column et_pb_column_2  et_pb_css_mix_blend_mode et-last-child et_block_column\">\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"et_pb_module et_d4_element et_pb_text et_pb_text_4  et_pb_text_align_left et_pb_bg_layout_light\">\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"et_pb_text_inner\"><p><span>Fotograma de la pel\u00b7l\u00edcula \"Savis de l\u2019Horta\" (2019).<\/span><\/p><\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n","protected":false},"featured_media":26217,"template":"","format":[212],"autor":[234],"ods":[264,175],"seccio":[190],"class_list":["post-28376","article","type-article","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","autor-arnau-martinez-teruel","format-entrevistes","ods-agricultura","ods-comunitats-sostenibles","seccio-reflexio"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.6 - 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